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Marla Kirby's avatar

1. If either had been successful, we might be looking at a very different world - if the first has been successful, we might be living in Trump's 2nd term in office, in which (due to lack of support for Ukraine) Russia would have rolled over Ukraine and would be on the march in Eastern Europe. Distrust in elections (and therefore governmental institutions) would likely be even greater than it already is, among many other impacts. If the second had been successful, I think that would have plunged us into a constitutional crisis, in which (again) distrust in elections would be high, but I'm not sure how it would be resolved. Perhaps with more violence (a la January 6).

2. Transparency, or lack thereof, seems the key differentiator between the two. Reagan's speech, while slanted, was based in facts, while Trump's attempts were founded in lies. The source for the claims (of 2016 election interference by Ukraine, in the first example, and Georgia election irregularities in 2020, in the second example) were obscured and therefore hard to dispel quickly. So, we would be left with lingering doubts about the integrity of our elections.

3. If we doubt the integrity of our elections, then democracy will necessarily fall since the essence of democracy is representation through free and fair elections.

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Sue Patten's avatar

1. If he had succeeded in either example, the propaganda would have been normalized. It would have eroded the public faith in the media and crippled its role of investigating, exposing truth, and speaking to power.

2. Those three factors are intertwined. The audience and the purpose dictate the transparency – the tactic used. One tactic is the use of transparency or deception. Given that, I think transparency is the most important.

3. I think democracy thrives on white propaganda as long as it is more than one sided and open to debate. The dark, deceptive propaganda aims at society’s emotions in order to convince them the lies are in fact reality. The discussion is and becomes deeply one sided. Any debate, however tame, is classified as hostile. People feel it will all work out or get tired of fighting it and become quiet. That quiet allows the often-louder noise of lies to take up more space and eventually push democracy out of the picture.

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