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Asha, I listened to It's Complicated yesterday so I hope I can remember what I thought. I was surprised Renato just kept saying, "It's not going to happen" and he offered only one reason, that the conservative SC won't rule that Trump is disqualified. But they don't have to rule on that. They can just rule on what constitutes insurrection or rebellion and whether Trump committed it. Then the states have the basis for disqualifying him from their ballots.

If they won't do that, they can rule that Trump gave aid or comfort to those who committed seditious conspiracy. The evidence is there: When he told them to go home, he said, "We love you." That's giving comfort.

Also, Renato said the section hasn't been cited since after it was first passed, as far as he knew. Please tell him to check out law professor Mark Graber's book, "Punish Treason, Reward Loyalty : The Forgotten Goals of Constitutional Reform After the Civil War" (2023). I listened to a podcast from the Constitution Center with him and I believe he said it has been cited since the 1860s and 70s. He also said the SC could rule NOW on what constitutes insurrection and rebellion, as soon as one of the cases being filed now make it to the SC.

And another thing, Renato: This isn't a slippery slope where Republicans could turn aroung and keep a Democrat off the ballot, not based on this section of the amendment because a Democrat would not do what Trump did. There would be no basis for it.

Don A in Pennsultucky's avatar

In college, I learned that the phrase "hoist by his own petard" refers to the fate of a person who placed a bomb near a gate and the bomb exploded prematurely "hoisting" the would-be bomb placer.

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